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Victron vs. EcoFlow PowerKit for Van Life: Ultimate Review
Deciding on Victron Energy Components vs. EcoFlow PowerKit and your electrical system as a whole,ย is challenging. With the amount of articles available, you can get bits a pieces here and there, but weโve done all the research and compiled it here. There is no โone size fits allโ approach to van life, and so here is what we found, and read to the end to see if we decided on the EcoFlow PowerKit or a custom built solution with Victron components!
Definitions
The Victron set-up consists of all Victron components, Inverter-Charger, MPPT charge controller, etc. The batteries considered are general Lithium batteries, as there are many options available. Be sure to read our complete review of the EcoFlow PowerKit.
Capability
To start we need to hit capability, because if the EcoFlow PowerKit or custom Victron solution cannot do something, it is crucial.
โก To learn more about what the EcoFlow PowerKit is, check out our article here.
With the Victron custom component set up, the sky is the limit for capabilities. You can mix and match components, only limited by your goals, budget, and experience wiring everything up. With the EcoFlow PowerKit, you are investing in an all-in-one setup and as such, are extremely confined with the capabilities. With this being said, letโs dive into what capabilities we need for a satisfactory van build.
Enough power to run our systems: AC, Induction Cooktop, Starlink, etc.
The most important capability of your electrical system, is often downplayed. Can it support all the systems you need in your van? Since we are planning an all electric buildout, without Propane, we have some high power requirements.
There are two important facets to power requirements, daily use and use at one time.
For daily use, we need to look at our battery bank sizes. Weโll use the EcoFlow PowerKit maximum for this, which is 10kWh. The reason why this is 10kWh and not 15kWh is that we will need an DC Air Conditioner, taking up 1/3 battery slots, reducing the maximum to two 5kWh batteries. With our theoretical maximum daily use at 9.6kWh, EcoFlow has the power capability to support our Van Build.
For use at one time, we need to look at inverter output. The EcoFlow PowerKit has a 3600W sustained and 7200W burst inversion while Victron has a 3000W inverter (with 2400W sustained). A 3kW inverter will run all of the appliances individually as well as combinations of most. This checks the box for both Victron and EcoFlow PowerKit.
Regular charging to refill our battery bank
When considering charging in a Van Build, we can look at 3 different sections: solar, alternator, shore power / generator.
Solar Charging Comparison
Solar on a van build is limited primarily by the available space on your roof. We decided to install a roof rack so we could maximize our Solar generation capabilities with 825W. Victron sellsย many MPPT Solar Charge Controllersย and EcoFlow PowerKit will accept at most 1.6kW (in one input) so both are satisfied with respect to Solar.
Alternator Charging Comparison
Alternator charging is the first piece where we have a real deviation with capability comparing Victron Components vs. EcoFlow PowerKit. Looking at the highest rated (power) alternator available, we find the Nations 48V Alternator.
Voltage | Amps | Estimated Output (50% efficiency) |
---|---|---|
48V | 100A | 2.4kWh |
However, a 48V Alternator adds a lot of complexity to the EcoFlow PowerKit. This is because the connection diagram shows you need to connect the Alternator input to your battery. Of course to get 48V in, we need a 48V battery, unless we step up the voltage somehow. Suffice to say, with the PowerHub a 48V Alternator Charge will need quite a bit of additional components and design, increasing the cost significantly. So letโs compare a more reasonable set up, the Nations 12V Alternator:
Voltage | Amps | Estimated Output (50% efficiency) |
---|---|---|
12V | 280A | 1.68kW |
With a Victron System we will be able to get all of this charge, as long as we include the correct BMS and batteries. For the EcoFlow PowerKit we are limited by the PowerHub, and the max incoming power is 1.6kWh. We need to get into the technical details here, so bear with me for a minute! For the EcoFlow PowerKit we must to look at the maximum amperage as that will limit the power. The specifications for the EcoFlow PowerKit show 60A maximum and a Voltage input of 12-60V.
Voltage | Amps (constrained) | Estimated Output |
---|---|---|
12V | 60A | 0.72kW |
This leaves an estimated .96kW (1.68kW – .72kW) difference. Referencing a 10kW battery bank, this means a Victron 12V Nations Secondary Alternator set up will charge your battery bank about 10% faster than the EcoFlow PowerKit.
Alternator charging is further nuanced because EcoFlow does allow for a second alternator input, maxed out at 1.6kW and you can have more alternators added to your engine for more Victron charging as well. We will focus on the 0.96kWbecause that is the most standard, and what applies to our situation.
Shore Power / Generator Charging Comparison
The EcoFlow PowerKit accepts 15A and 30A with a maximum input of 3000W. A Victron system can accept 50A, but we can call this even for both systems.
Sufficient Battery Bank to Last Heavy Use and Poor Weather
The second piece with deviations between the systems is the possible size of battery banks. With Victron, as above, your budget and space is the limit. Letโs guesstimate this as 20kW considering the limited space in Vans. For EcoFlow, the maximum battery bank, with a DC AirConditioner, is 10kWh. In terms of amp hours at 12V this equates to roughly 830ah. So the question leads, is 10kWh enough for van life?
Our rule of thumb for battery life, is to plan for 3 days without charging. In other words, assume we are in cloudy weather with 0 solar generation, we are not plugged in to a campground, and we are not running our vehicle,ย how long will the batteries last with normal usage?
Estimated Normal Usage | Total Battery Bank | Amount of Days with Zero Incoming Charge |
---|---|---|
3kW | 10kW | 3.3 days |
With almost 4 days of charge, in normal use, the EcoFlow PowerKit will satisfy our needs. This is a very individual calculation, heavily depending on our goals and intended use, so youโll need to calculate your electrical requirements and goals to determine if the EcoFlow PowerKit will satisfy your needs.
Charging Goals
Now, lets go into our charging goals with van life. Personally, we do not plan to go to Campgrounds unless it is 90+ degrees F or if the location demands it. This means we need to look at our estimated daily use and subtract our estimated daily charge. Letโs start by tallying up our charging capabilities, with the limiting factor – EcoFlow PowerKit:
Name | Power | Estimated Hours of Charge per Day | Incoming Watt Hours |
---|---|---|---|
Solar Panels | 825W | 4 | 3.3kW |
Secondary Alternator | 720W | 1 | 0.72kW |
Now letโs subtract our daily estimated use:
Estimated Normal Usage | Estimated Incoming Charge | Percentage Over Charge |
---|---|---|
3kW | 4.02kW | 134% |
This means that, on an average, sunny day – we will overcome all our charge and put some back in the bank.
Letโs run through two examples on days with zero solar, because we should account for that as well:
Scenario | Power Needed | Time of Driving Needed with EcoFlow | Time of Driving Needed with Victron |
---|---|---|---|
Daily Usage | 3kW | 3hr 45m | 1hr 36m |
Empty Batteries | 10kW | 13hr 53m | 5h 57m |
TLDR: Considering the limitations of EcoFlow PowerKit, and the flexibility of Victron Components – both can work for our van build, however, Victron would be better.
Cost
After capability the second most important factor here is cost. There are two important facets to cost, upfront and installation. If one is vastly more expensive than the other, it would seriously impact our decision.
Upfront Materials Cost Comparison
Since a custom Victron solution can be anything we want, we will estimate out as similar as possible build to the 10kWh EcoFlow PowerKit, as that is the EcoFlow PowerKit that satisfies our capability requirements above. Theย EcoFlow PowerKit, Independence Version with AC Cableย (as of writing this article) is on sale forย $10,799.
Cost of Solar Panels
Theย 825W of Solar Panelsย on the top of our Van, is the same cost for both options so that cancels out.
Cost of Alternator Charging
The 12V Nations Alternator and Wakespeed are the same for both a custom Victron system and EcoFlow PowerKit so that cancels out. As mentioned above, we can have slightly additional charge on the EcoFlow PowerKit and significant additional charge on the Victron set up if we go 48V, however that increases cost.
Victron Components Needed
Component | Purpose | Price |
---|---|---|
Lynx BMS | Battery Management System | $956 |
Shunt | State of charge of batteries | $117 |
Cerbo GX | System Control | $287 |
Cerbo GX Touch | Display for System Control | $220 |
Multiplus II | Inverter Charger | $1,233 |
Lynx Distributor | Fuses and Electrical | $211 |
Lithium Batteries | 9.6kWh Batteries | $4,240 |
MPPT Solar Charge Controller | Solar charging | $280 |
AC / DC Switch Panel | Safety and routing your electrical components. | ~ $100 |
Wires and Fuses | This incorporates the wires and fuses before the switch panel, mounting boards, etc. | ~ $200 |
The total of similar Victron components is $7,844. This means that the upfront const for Victron is about $3,000 cheaper than EcoFlow PowerKit. There are a few features of the EcoFlow PowerKit that are not in the table of Victron, because we wouldnโt install them, so you can include their value if they matter to your build.
- The EcoFlow PowerKit includes a DC-DC charger to quick start your van battery bank if your starting battery gets low.
- The EcoFlow PowerKitโs AC/DC fuse panel is smart, and you can turn on and off switches there from the mobile app or Console.
Both these are nice to have for us, but good to call out in the up front cost!
Installation Cost of a custom Victron Components vs EcoFlow PowerKit
For our van build, we will be installing the electrical systems ourselves. This means that there is no monetary cost for installation, rather just a time cost. Since this is a planning blog post, we donโt know exactly how long it will take, but referencing Van Landโs review we can estimate the following:
EcoFlow PowerKit | 4-6 hours |
Victron Components | 40 hours – 50 hours |
If we take a rate of $100 / hour that makes the installation roughly $3,600 to $4,400 more expensive for a Victron System.
All in all, here is the final price comparison for Victron Components vs EcoFlow PowerKit
EcoFlow PowerKit | $11,399 |
Victron Components | $12,244 |
As you can see, both systems are comparatively expensive and a very similar price point. This is probably the biggest deciding factor for us though, because we can save the $4,400 by installing it ourselves and spend our time to save some cash.
Reliability / Support
Both Victron and EcoFlow are high end products. and have pretty solid reliability. So what we care about is how often do we have failures and what happens when we have a failure.
We have had a Victron Orion DC-DC component fail for us, when we were living aboard our boat Pivot. We were using it to charge our battery bank from our Alternator. Well, when we connected it and debugged our set up, we found that the device was faulty. I reached out to the supplier through Amazon and we had a replacement shipped within the week. It was a seamless process, and a huge pro for a Victron system.
With EcoFlow, replacing a component is extremely easy since it is just a plug-and-play system, however getting those replaced components can be a challenge. This is because, EcoFlow is a much less distributed company with less suppliers than Victron. You should buy your EcoFlow through a reputable reseller like Orion Van Gear so they can help you with any faults you may find.
Installation
Installing an electrical system can be complex with a custom Victron system, or simple with the EcoFlow. As mentioned above with the costs section, the 4-6 hours of estimated install for the EcoFlow PowerKit compared to the 40-50 hours estimated install for the Victron. Outside of the time investment, you also need to consider the difficulty.
Difficulty
Since the EcoFlow PowerKit is plug-and-play there isnโt much difficulty and the knowledge required is minimal. Since I am a Computer Engineer, it is less impactful in our decision making, as they say, โtime is moneyโ so that is a huge plus for the EcoFlow PowerKit.
For a custom Victron set-up, you have to not only understand which components to purchase but also how to connect them, and how to properly select the correct wires and fittings. This is a safety issue, because if you implement wires that are an inadequate size, they can overheat and cause fires. The most frequent errors when installing a well-designed system involve loose connections, so extra care will be needed during the install.
โก We use the Blue Sea Systems website for wire planning
Size / Location
Considering the EcoFlow PowerKitโs Power Hub combines many components in one device, the MPPT solar charge controllers, DC-DC Chargers for the Alternator, as well as the Inverter Charger, the footprint is much smaller than the Victron custom components. This means thatย the custom Victron set up will take more room than the EcoFlow PowerKit. With a Van build, all available space needs to be used so this is a win in the EcoFlow category, although the difference is not huge.
Upgradability
An EcoFlow PowerKit, since it is a plug-and-play, all-in-one system, is not very upgradable. Perhaps when a new Power Hub is released, youย mayย be able to replace that, but
a) its a big assumption that their will be a new Power Hub and it will be backward compatible
b) it will be expensive.
The other huge downside is that you cannot add battery storage with the EcoFlow PowerKit. This means that if you mis-calculate your electrical requirements and need more storage, you wonโt be able to handle that.
With a custom Victron system, however, the world is your oyster. You can replace individual components and add batteries as desired. This gives you flexibility if our electrical requirements change throughout van life.
Final thoughts
Both the EcoFlow PowerKit and custom Victron set-up have their pros and cons. There really is no right or wrong here, simply what works best with your goals. Check back here, we will share which direction we go with with our Van Build of Pivot the second!
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5 responses to “Victron vs. EcoFlow PowerKit for Van Life: Ultimate Review”
Good article but with one BIG flaw.
Victron units you quote here are 3000VA not Watts. They are 2400Watts according to Victron.
Therefore your calculations have massive errors.Thanks – You are correct that the Victron documentation says 2400W continuous and 6000W peak! The way I understand it is that you plan for VA (with wire sizing and fuses, considering Watts = VA), and your actuals with resistance and heat loss are the Watts.
However, this actually doesn’t change anything with respect to the calculations result, per the article:
“A 3kW inverter will run all of the appliances individually as well as combinations of most. This checks the box for both Victron and EcoFlow PowerKit.”
I enjoyed your article, but I am a little confused about your comment about not being able to upgrade an EcoFlow PowerKit’s battery.
It has 3 battery inputs. The battery sizes are 2kWh and 5KWh. And they can be Stackable and expandable up to 6kWh/15kWh.
Another area that is impressive about the PowerKit’s batteries is that they have a built in BMS and Built-in auto heating to use in as low as -4ยฐF. These are usually add0ons for Victron based systems.
Good question! The EcoFlow has three battery inputs, so the theoretical maximum is 15kWh. For our build, one of the three ports will be used for a 48V AC, so the maximum is now 10kWh. 10kWh is a great battery bank; in fact, it’s what we’re going to use for our build! However, since we decided to go to Victron and Battleborn for our Batteries, if (in a year or so) I realize we need one more battery, I can add it to our system. While for EcoFlow, that is not possible, as there aren’t any more battery ports. I think that if EcoFlow could support the three batteries and the 48V A/C then that would be more than enough, but as it stands 10kWh is just on the border of being enough for our uses.
While I think that most quality lithium batteries have a BMS (besides Victron, where they have an external BMS for different reasons), having heated batteries is far from normal. It is awesome that EcoFlow has heated batteries and a quality BMS built in! EcoFlow is a great system, too!
I’m building a van from scratch so this is very helpful info. The thing that’s scaring me away from the Ecoflow is the 70 amp dc output cap. If you run a 12v air conditioner that pulls 50 amps, and a fridge that pulls 5-10 amps, and a couple other dc things like lights and a water pump, you can run over your 70A – especially if the air conditioner and fridge need to work hard at the same time.
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